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Monday, November 18, 2024

Casual ARMY vs Core ARMY controversy: Why it's not as serious as some are making it

      Disclaimer: Before I even get into this I'm going to say this is not just my opinion. This is how many other more seasoned/ experienced ARMY feel about voting and streaming. You don't have to agree. Do you and go be you but we're also going to do our thing and be us and you will eventually get over it if you don't like it. Don't come into my comments here or on Threads or any other social media overreacting or getting an attitude because I won't have it. You'll be blocked. This isn't meant to put anyone down or be "toxic" which is being overused now. It's just to clarify what was taken out of hand and twisted by some who don't get it. 


Edited: 11/23/24 Jimin won the daesang Visa Fan's Choice Award at the MAMA Awards which is fan voted and an award BTS has won as a group for the past several years in a row. His thank you letter to ARMY has been added at the end of this post.

     The other day on Threads an ARMY made a post about voting and streaming telling newer ARMY not to stress about it and that they don't have to worry about trying to keep up. I think her intentions initially were to get people to stop worrying about it so much. I don't typically see people stressing about either on my feed because we know it comes with the territory. Beginning intentions aside, she showed her true nature later when she snapped and posted this. 


    Now, no one cares how many concerts you attended or how many albums you have. That's not what makes you an ARMY. There are people who buy albums and get barricade at concerts and don't know a single lyric. I'm reminded of a Coldplayer post where a Coldplayer was at barricade next to a "fan" who didn't know the words to their songs that were 15 or 20 years old. The Coldplayer was just surprised this person had gotten great tickets but didn't know the songs when they were used to being in front with die-hard fans singing songs back to the band. Having merch and going to concerts just means you have money. Not even that really. You choose to spend what you do have on those things is how I'll put it, because what it really comes down to is priorities and opportunity. My priorities lie in making sure there's a roof over my head and my child is fed and clothed. If I have disposable income after that then fine. I'm not in a position where I can fly across the country to see concerts so I vote and stream to support all 7 and the group as a whole. That makes me ARMY.
     So this was probably in response to my comments on the post because I commented that there is nothing wrong with being a casual fan or casual ARMY. The terms casual ARMY and core ARMY were used in a recent Boracity Magazine YouTube video and I liked the way they explained it. 
     Let's back up a bit. This was all because there were people who responded to the Threads poster saying that they don't have time to stream, see streaming as "cheating the system" (I'm sorry what?!), and someone who said they don't participate in mob mentality type things and no one can make them do anything. No one is making them do anything! Core ARMY put out calls to vote and stream and that's what we've always done. We just had a comeback and we're still in tracking week 1 for that. Why would you make a post encouraging people not to stream or vote two days before a comeback and during end of the year voting season when daesangs and bonsangs are being awarded? 
     I explained my perspective which is similar to Boracity's that there are core ARMY who vote and stream and that's how BTS wins awards. Korean awards shows rely heavily on fan voting and if ARMY wants BTS to win we have to vote for them. When I was first ARMY I didn't know this and it's likely that others don't either. When we post calls to go vote a lot of times those posts are as much to remind each other to vote as they are to recruit new voters. If you don't vote keep scrolling. There's no need to comment or get defensive and angry about something that you've made clear does not concern you.
    There's nothing wrong with being a casual fan if you choose not to vote and stream or one or the other. The poster bragging about concerts... she streams. She puts out posts encouraging people to stream. She just doesn't vote. That's the funny thing. No one ever called her casual ARMY. I commented it in general in response to the rude comments throughout her Thread. She took casual ARMY as an insult. Being that she's gen X as am I, I assume she thinks casual ARMY means poser (fake fan posing as a real one for attention) and it does NOT. Casual ARMYs still contribute in the ways they choose to participate. Had she watched the Boracity video she would have understood that. 

Why We Stream

     The reason streaming is so important is because BTS does not get much airplay if any on US radio. I can only speak for the US because that's where I am but other International ARMY have also said BTS doesn't get much airplay on the radio where they live either.When I say airplay I'm not talking about satellite radio because that's a little different. I'm talking about terrestrial radio, AM and FM frequencies. There are a few messed up reasons for this but the main ones are payola and racism/xenophobia. Major labels pay radio stations to play their artists or make deals for artists to appear at events like I Heart Radio things if the stations play their artists. The same artists get played over and over in a rotation. That rotation is often set by the station and they don't try to deviate from that because they're being paid to stick to it. 
     In the US, Clear Channel, now I Heart Media, owns 860 or more radio stations. Clear Channel was a right-wing owned company. Clear Channel has been around since the 70's buying up stations and has faced financial hardship over the years because of it. They were bought out in 2008 and became I Heart Media in 2014. They are Republican based, headquarters is in TX, and they have censored and blacklisted artists before for speaking out against the Republican Party. I'm not going to go into detail here for the sake of space and time but The Chicks (formerly known as The Dixie Chicks) were blacklisted by Clear Channel when they spoke out against Republican President at the time George W. Bush. These same radio stations will play "Despacito" (the Justin Bieber version) but won't play BTS Korean songs and will barely play their English ones. If you know why you know why. 
    So ARMY streams. For those who don't know what streaming is--because these extreme reactions suggest that some people apparently don't--it is literally just listening to music. That's it! I stream everyday almost as soon as I wake up. I open Apple Music and I find a playlist or I put on an album and hit play. Do we have goals? Yes but that's just a guide so you know where we want to be collectively. I hope no one is looking at these streaming goals and thinking you need to hit those individually on your own. I mean I'm having trouble trying to figure out what the issue is and why people say things in my comment section like Texastish on Threads did this week regarding me writing this blog post, " You actually don't need to explain anything to anyone. People can be fans in the best way they are comfortable. You or nobody else has the right to try to dictate what makes someone "core ARMY." It's stuff like this that makes people view the fandom as toxic. You have time and energy to stream? Great! Not everyone does. It's fine." She went on and said a few more things I found ignorant because if she read for comprehension she would know that the first part of what she is saying is exactly what I am saying as well. ARMY how you ARMY but you don't need to bitch about not streaming. Sorry not sorry. She has time to do unboxing videos on her IG of the same name but not stream. Make it make sense. She also made comments intended to be digs at me about her having a career and not having time. Sweetheart we are all busy, time is what you make it. Streaming is literally putting on background music. You may need to eventually interact with your playlist but that's hitting pause or changing the playlist when it stops. It's not that hard. 
     One thousand five hundred streams is roughly the equivalent of one album sale. ARMY is known as monster streamers so this was an interesting stat for me knowing that BTS has numerous songs in the millions of streams. Streams are part of the criteria for winning Korean music shows which count towards end of the year awards as well. Streams take up some of the slack for us not having airplay needed to get onto Billboard charts too. So don't complain about not wanting to stream and then whine about the guys not making Billboard. You don't get to have it both ways. 

    Why We Vote

     Voting is to help BTS win awards. If you are the type of "ARMY" who says "BTS has enough awards" you're not ARMY to me. Not sorry. ARMY that knows the struggles BTS has been through in the past know that they deserve every single win, period. They give us their whole heart and blood, sweat, and tears, to make sure we are entertained and we love them for it. If you can be that casual about it then you're not one of us. Period. And about me not being able to say if you're ARMY or not, you can call yourself the Queen of England but that doesn't make it true.
     That being said, if you don't vote just because it isn't your thing then that's your business. You don't need to broadcast that on social media because you could be wrongly encouraging other newer ARMY not to vote. Maybe that's your plan anyway and in that case you have other issues.  If they want to vote then we can show them how. If you don't want to then you have the option of scrolling, muting, and blocking accounts that talk about voting and streaming and leaving the conversations up to those of us who want to do the work and those who want to learn how to do the work. Many times when we put out posts about voting it's to remind each other that voting has reset for the day because timeline differences can be tricky. Of course we put calls out for others to join in as well but if you don't want to, keeping quiet is free. Your opinion is not needed. 
     BTS has a long running legacy with the MAMA awards and I have linked this mini documentary done by the MAMA awards on their YouTube in comment sections only to be ignored. I will link all 3 parts in this post. Going back and watching early footage of them winning their first awards and reading about or watching videos about the hardships they went through with the company nearly going bankrupt, the bullying from antis (other groups and companies as well), the death threats they got when some were still minors (I mean death threats are horrible either way but they faced this as teenagers), and watching the clips of practices will let you know why we are so dedicated as core ARMY to helping them win whenever we can. I got more involved with voting as I saw how they were treated in the past and still are treated. Voting and trying to get them more and more wins is our love language with them. We can't go to concerts if they aren't touring. We still have 5 members enlisted till the end of June 2025 and it won't be till 2026 most likely that we get a concert so showing up and showing support in person is mostly out of the question. We don't all live in South Korea so when it comes to special stages international ARMY are left out of that. We show them that we are here through voting and winning awards for them. Given that most of these awards are fan voted we show up for them as a team and vote. 
     In conclusion, no one is saying at all that you aren't ARMY if you don't vote and stream. There are levels to this and I didn't come up with it. I'm just using terminology that was already there. Casual fans usually don't vote or stream. Are they still important? YES!  No one said you weren't, people assumed that. My issue lies with the people who are casual fans and will complain about the ones doing the work and act like we have all the time in the world to vote and stream while they have lives and can't. It's wrong first of all and just rude. Just saying you don't want to is sufficient. Better yet don't come into our comment sections complaining at all just keep scrolling. Better even just block me because you can't ever contribute to a conversation I'm having with anything I would want to hear. I'm here for BTS, to support BTS. I'm not here to amass a ton of followers and be popular so the ones trying to be snarky downers about the work we do as core ARMY can either join and help or shut up. 

 

Links

Streaming and voting info

MAMA mini doc on BTS's history with the MAMA awards
MAMA BTS Doc pt2








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Jimin posted this letter on Weverse 11.23.24 after winning the daesang for Visa Fan's Choice. Go on Weverse to get the full letter. 


Monday, July 15, 2024

ARMY Resources and Info

      This post is one I hope to keep updated with links to resources that are important to ARMY for purposes of voting, streaming, and otherwise interesting or are important to ARMY. Most you will already have used or heard of some of these resources but since we have a lot of new ARMY all the time, I will add anything I can think of that will be of use. We were all new ARMY once and had to learn where things were and the importance of them and I still learn new things every day. Hope this helps and if anyone has anything to add let me know because I know there will be a LOT to add to this: 

Streaming

     Streaming is important because it counts towards charts (Billboard Hot 100, Hot 200, Global, etc). I'm in the U.S. so I can only include info that I understand from my perspective. Here in the U.S. BTS rarely if ever gets airplay on the radio. There are explanations for that regarding pay to play that other artists record companies use and BTS doesn't engage in. Part of it is racism but that's a whole other blog post I'd have to write to get into it here. Most U.S. radio stations are run by "conservative" media (read right-wing) and one company controls the majority of them (terrestrial radio not satellite radio). Streaming is where the consumer decides what to play and plays what they want to hear on demand so that is why streaming is so powerful. When the game changes, we have to use it to our advantage.

Streaming services to use

*check with your mobile service provider for potential discounts on services when you bundle them through the provider, some are offering streaming services like Apple as a service benefit at a discounted rate when combined with other offers
** Services that make streaming a little easier but are not streaming platforms themselves 
  1. Spotify - the most popular one for us where BTS holds several records, you can get a free account and those streams DO count but with less weight than Premium streams. Premium is a paid account with no ads and you will need a Premium Spotify account to connect to Stationhead (more on Stationhead later), free trials are often available. 
  2. Apple Music- we need to diversify our streaming platforms, growing on Apple would help us on the charts. All Apple streams are paid so they all carry more weight than free Spotify ones. If you are concerned about playlists there are ARMYs who share playlists for Apple Music on Threads and Twitter (I get mine from @narknon75  on Threads and JRJ-OT7)  Apple also has free trials and family plans available
  3. YouTube (the platform)-  video streaming service that also includes audio streaming. You can connect it to Scener to have a video streaming party or join one (see 8); free and premium accounts are available but premium streams count more than free streams 
  4. YouTube Music ( sep. app)- YouTube's music streaming app.   *YouTube may carry more weight in either of it's forms with Korean music shows like MNet because it is specifically mentioned in the points criteria - YouTube Shorts count for SNS points which we often lack because we need more YouTube Shorts that actually use BTS songs as audio, these forms of short video help chart placements as well 
  5. TikTok - short form video formats like TikTok and YouTube Shorts help with chart placements as well, using BTS songs as the audio gets the songs exposure and we should be focusing on creating videos with BTS songs in them especially during release tracking weeks. I am not saying not to use other artists at all in your TikToks and Instagram Reels and YouTube shorts but we have been losing on MNet and the area we have been missing points in lately is SNS which means we aren't creating, liking, sharing enough TikTok and YouTube Shorts with BTS songs as the audio; TikTok has their own chart on Billboard called the TikTok Billboard Top 50
  6. Deezer- I don't know much about it but I have seen posts where BTS members have done promos for it when they have new releases. Jimin is the top artist on this platform world wide as of 7.19.24 
  7. Tidal-  good platform for diversifying streams so we get out there other places, I don't know much about it 
  8. Pandora- good for diversifying streams 
  9. **Scener-  this is a Chrome extension used for streaming parties on YouTube for video. Here's the link to Scener ARMY page streaming. Once you set it up the videos are played by the host.   ARMY on the Scene Scener Link
  10. **Stationhead- Stationhead is a free app that allows you to stream in a live streaming party with other users by connecting a Premium Spotify account or Apple Music account. When there are new BTS releases, Big Hit/Hybe will run streaming parties on Stationhead at least for a week. Before enlistment the members would be in the streaming party and talk to ARMYs so it was like them having an audio only livestream or podcast effect. Now that they are enlisted it seems admins run it for them as they cannot go live. They are doing a good job for the guys though. You can also chat in the streaming party and this is a good place on some stations to remind others of voting and streaming goals, You can also purchase digital copies of singles in the buying/streaming parties. 
  11. Weverse Listening Parties -  Weverse added a feature very similar to Stationhead where you can stream with other listeners. You go to the party tab after you enter the BTS area and click on the listening party you want to join. Connect your streaming service and you're in. 
  12. SoundCloud- BTS has a treasure trove of unreleased songs here including covers, RM's first mix tape called RM, Christmas songs, concert only mixes, Ddaeng (not bootlegged from Spotify podcast playlists where they get no credit for other people adding it and playing it) BTS Official Soundcloud
     I didn't add links to all of the apps because all of the apps should be available in the Play Store for Google and Apple app store. Premium streams count more than free streams but free streams are always always welcome. Check with funding accounts and fanbases from your country to find out if there are funders who donate to get streamers on premium accounts. Some have people they can connect you with who will pay for premium accounts for you. Also always be on the lookout for free trials of premium accounts.

ARMY Etiquette/Rules

     I almost made this a full post but then I found this link and decided they described everything better than I could. 
ARMY ETIQUETTE   -there are some important things here including info regarding protecting BTS's privacy which some people either conveniently forgot or are just ignoring. Most of the rules if not all come directly from Big Hit/Hybe and are usually posted when fan meetings or concerts are going on. 

Voting

     For voting there is a ton of info out there so I am going to leave this link to a great resource from BTS ARMY Voting Team because they have a great comprehensive link that includes voting guides. 
    Voting is important when it comes to the ones that give actual awards. Some are just for bragging rights (the handsomest man ones particularly), though some of those make donations in the winning artist's name. What I didn't know when I first became ARMY is that the voting on MNET Plus and Choeaedol are very important to end of the year daesangs (grand prize) and bonsang (main prize) awards. These awards are voted on by the fans and popularity throughout the year in votings plays a factor in the final nominees and awards given. 
     There are other votings I didn't mention because when they come up we post about it but the rules also state that the awards given are at the discretion of the committee. This means even if you get the majority of the votes and your artist doesn't perform live or isn't attending (or for any reason really) the committee could just choose another winner. Some award shows like VMA's have this in their rules.

Lyrics

     I don't watch the YouTube lyric videos that are color-coded because they are basically copyright infringement no matter if they are from other ARMYs or not. YouTube loopholes allow them to pass because the people who post them add other sounds in the background or at the end of the songs and that ends up being a loophole in the rules. These accounts end up making money off of BTS's lyrics and music. I don't use them and I don't support using them. I get my lyric translations from Doolset Lyrics. Doolset Lyrics is a site with translations of BTS lyrics into English with explanations of meanings as well. This is very helpful because you aren't just getting the words but the interpretation as well. Anyone who has been baffled by RM's deep layered lyrics knows that having translations explained is everything. Nuanced translation is the difference between knowing what was said and actually understanding the depth of what was said. 

Books

     As a fan of Namjoon's book recommendations who is always looking for a good book, BTS Book List is a great resource. You click on the member whose book recommendations you want and there are some for each member. Namjoon's book recommendations are most talked about but there are some good books under each member. Some of these are books they have read on In The Soop, mentioned on social media, or books that their video concepts have been based on. I love reading books that they have based concepts on like Demian by Hermann Hesse which "Blood, Sweat, and Tears" video was based on. 


Reporting

     As we use social media to connect with each other as a fandom, it becomes more and more evident that the platforms aren't going to get rid of bullying and misinformation. It's best to take screenshots, get links to accounts and posts that are malicious regarding BTS and report to Big Hit legal team. When you send a report, do not write anything fan letter like because this is never going to be seen by BTS only the lawyers. Be professional and explain why you are writing (ex :"ARMY has been seeing posts regarding...") and attach photos and links. The portal link is protect.hybecorp.comBig Hit does read these and go after libelous internet users and people who do malicious things to them in real life so if you see posts on X or Threads or anywhere with misinformation, rumors, lies, or threats. Get proof and send that report. 

Interesting links

I found this on YouTube and it gives insight into BTS's history with MNet and the MAMA Awards. This is a good short documentary series in 3 episodes that shows why we are so passionate about our Mnet voting every week that BTS or individual members are nominated. These smaller weekly voting sessions count towards the larger end of the year awards. 

BTS Official Social Media Channels 
*** Last updated June 2026

Instagram 

rkive  RM/Kim Namjoon
rpwprpwprpwp RM extra acct for RPWP album

jin  Jin/Kim Seokjin
wootteo Jin's The Astronaut character acct 

j.m.   Park Jimin

agustd  Agust D/Suga/Min Yoongi

uarmyhope  JHope/Jung Hoseok

thv  V/Kim Taehyung 

*Jungkook does not have an official Instagram anymore. His used to be jungkook.97 but someone took the name after he deleted his account. Anyone using that name is fake. He did set up an Instagram later for his dog Bam which is bowwow_bam

** Update 7\15\25  Jungkook opened a new IG account and it's confirmed to be real mnijungkook



Twitter\ X


Threads
Jungkook's ONLY official Threads account: Jungkook's ONLY official Threads account
Opened Jan 2026 and first post March 2026

BTS officially joined Threads on 6\13\2026 BTS Official Threads Account


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